Nocker(berlin/austria)Cengiz Özek Shadow
mates.out of town members
should plan and buy travel tickets in advance.inland sleeper class
up-down train fares,i think,can be
provided from the buget for Pi members,but please don't
anybody promise any artist or guest any travel
fund.KIPAF holds the same position
regarding provisions,logistics and related
matters.the
rough budget. FOOD
30,000 IN CITY
CONVEYANCE 20,000
VOLUNTEERS
30,000
PERFORMANCE MATERIAL 20,000 PRINT
ETC.
10,000
DOCUMENTATION 20,000
MISCELLANEOUS 20,000 TOTAL
1,50,000
INR.
please give all your feedbacks.and
please come up to take responsibilities.you all know how KIPAF is done.this coming edition will be
on the same lines of the Kolkata
streets,of loitering,of sitting tired on the pavements,of
smoking the traffic-light joint,of art,of revolution,of
nonsense,of all the ghosts of life,of the city,the river,the
sundarbans,the cyclones,the killings,the suicides,the rapes.of body."shorir shorir tomar mon nai
kusum?"[almost untranslatable gem from Manik
Banerjee's bangla novel Putul-nacher
Itikawtha,loosely:"this body!you don't have a
soul,dear?"]this much for
now.keeping in touch.waiting for your
initiative...love and solidaritytaufikp.s.always forgetting
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From: Sanchayan Ghosh <sanchayang2@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 9:43 AM
To: Syed Riaz <syedtaufikriaz@gmail.com>
Cc: Amitava Adhikari <aliamitabha@gmail.com>, Ankur Das <ankurdas.1985@gmail.com>, AOPALA AOPALA <aopala94@gmail.com>, Anirban Datta <amnesian@gmail.com>, Tapati Chowdhury <dolajhamela@gmail.com>, Rahul Bhattacharya <evilareve@gmail.com>, Suman Majumder <hergecalling@gmail.com>, chirantan mukhopadhya <cmukpostbox90@gmail.com>, Uma Banerjee <khukiratri12@gmail.com>, Shrimoy roy chaudhury <sroychau@gmail.com>, sumantro mukherjee <sun_m25@rediffmail.com>, Suman Mondal <sumanchobi@gmail.com>, Trayajit Dutta <trayajit@gmail.com>, Ayanava Sanyal <nvsanyal@gmail.com>, Arne Gollasch <arnegollasch@gmx.net>, martijn de rooij <derooij.martijn@gmail.com>, taxiduomail@gmail.com, Santhosh Sakhinala <santusakhi@gmail.com>, madhuja_m <madhuja_m@yahoo.co.in>, Goutam Ghosh <mrgoutamghosh@gmail.com>, Bhaskar Hazarika <hazarika.bhaskar@gmail.com>, rituparna banerjee <banerjee.rituparna06@gmail.com>, samudra kajal saikia <kankhowa@gmail.com>, sambaran das <sambaran.das@gmail.com>, Susmita Das <susmita1002@gmail.com>, Sukanta Majumdar <sukantamajumdar77@gmail.com>, Monica Nanjunda <monica.nanjunda@gmail.com>, Manas Acharya <sahajmanush@yahoo.com>, Sajad H Hamdani <artistscommune@gmail.com>, Sajan Mani <sajan@kochimuzirisbiennale.org>, Moushumi Bhowmik <moushumibhowmik@gmail.com>, "Bea D." <beavanakkam@gmail.com>, sukanto debnath <sukantodebnath@yahoo.com>, Kedar Vishwanathan <kedarvish@gmail.com>, Prakriti dutta mukherjee <prakriti.dm@gmail.com>, ROHAN DEWANJEA <rohandewanjea@gmail.com>
Just few observations....
Good to know that I have been placed as an observer.So few viewpoints as an outsider.
It is also good to read that there is a growing concern about the historicity of performance art, the notion of alternative and the articulation of the seriousness of the practice within Pi. It is great that KIPAF is drawing interest from Funders and I agree with santhosh regarding the challenge in maintaining the space initiated by KIPAF.
Now regarding the notion of a festival I have always felt that to generate a discourse one need to have a more concrete programme than just hosting performances.Festivals are good for generating public visibility. But If performance art has to emerge as an alternative, there has to be a process that would differentiate
between entertainment and engagement. Lets not develop a generative form in the process of trying to make some thing popular .KIPAF do not need to become every bodies festival like the other festivals that has been referred. Let people decide what they want to see and experience, for that it should retain its identity and difference. KIPAF needs to underline that it is not a music festival nor a theater festival(I was surprised to hear how some of the friends of KIPAF looks at the practice of Taufik and PI as theater performance)
I have no problem with funding as long as it helps one to retain its entity and difference( but I have not yet encountered any such agency who has no expectation).
A proper orientation process also needs to be initiated about the city and the locations.The city also needs to be initiated. May be a journey of posturing on the site prior to the festival weeks before can play a role( using the ploy of the advertising methodology but transgressing it).
Lets not try to make or follow history but be in the present. Just an outside thought. may be its sometimes critical to think how to generate fund than just to receive it. But I am totally an outsider may be also seating in an AC.
Best wishes to you all.
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From: Shrimoy roy chaudhury <sroychau@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 11:06 AM
To: Sanchayan Ghosh <sanchayang2@gmail.com>
Cc: Syed Riaz <syedtaufikriaz@gmail.com>, Amitava Adhikari <aliamitabha@gmail.com>, Ankur Das <ankurdas.1985@gmail.com>, AOPALA AOPALA <aopala94@gmail.com>, Anirban Datta <amnesian@gmail.com>, Tapati Chowdhury <dolajhamela@gmail.com>, Rahul Bhattacharya <evilareve@gmail.com>, Suman Majumder <hergecalling@gmail.com>, chirantan mukhopadhya <cmukpostbox90@gmail.com>, Uma Banerjee <khukiratri12@gmail.com>, sumantro mukherjee <sun_m25@rediffmail.com>, Suman Mondal <sumanchobi@gmail.com>, Trayajit Dutta <trayajit@gmail.com>, Ayanava Sanyal <nvsanyal@gmail.com>, Arne Gollasch <arnegollasch@gmx.net>, martijn de rooij <derooij.martijn@gmail.com>, taxiduomail@gmail.com, Santhosh Sakhinala <santusakhi@gmail.com>, madhuja_m <madhuja_m@yahoo.co.in>, Goutam Ghosh <mrgoutamghosh@gmail.com>, Bhaskar Hazarika <hazarika.bhaskar@gmail.com>, rituparna banerjee <banerjee.rituparna06@gmail.com>, samudra kajal saikia <kankhowa@gmail.com>, sambaran das <sambaran.das@gmail.com>, Susmita Das <susmita1002@gmail.com>, Sukanta Majumdar <sukantamajumdar77@gmail.com>, Monica Nanjunda <monica.nanjunda@gmail.com>, Manas Acharya <sahajmanush@yahoo.com>, Sajad H Hamdani <artistscommune@gmail.com>, Sajan Mani <sajan@kochimuzirisbiennale.org>, Moushumi Bhowmik <moushumibhowmik@gmail.com>, "Bea D." <beavanakkam@gmail.com>, sukanto debnath <sukantodebnath@yahoo.com>, Kedar Vishwanathan <kedarvish@gmail.com>, Prakriti dutta mukherjee <prakriti.dm@gmail.com>, ROHAN DEWANJEA <rohandewanjea@gmail.com>
Thanks Sanchayan da for your insights.
Manas, you are very much part of the debate, and that very timely metaphor of Alimuddin provokes me to think through the differences. But you know what the problem is: When you say that a particular organization is more in the league of socially motivated ones, you are not saying anything new about it--because corporate social responsibility is about circulating the surplus with an aim to create a model society. You treat the social as outside the political, whereas, the way I understand it, the social is where the political is being fought out, negotiated, and conjured. Hence, what is good art and what is bad art cannot be outside the purview of this socially motivated capital. I am ready to go for any kind of funding as long as I am not blind to its implications, and am in a position to place my pawns accordingly. The question for us is: what is at stake? What do we have to pawn in order to do that?
One way of getting around the problem is to explore the field of practice-the processes through which envision the project to take off. I have been insisting on relinquishing a top down order and more in the order of a "Claiming the stake" or "staking the claim" to funding because, echoing Sanchayan da, I want to retain the possibility of generating funding that Pi, supported by Sunny's initiative, has got going street graffiti. This is a very exciting moment which we should not let go of. I think one of way of doing this is if each of us decided how we wanted to participate as collectives, and claimed our stake in the funding as well as staked our claim in the funding. Pi is an abstraction as far as I am concerned. It is for us to represent that collectivity as embodied collectives through our respective associations with art work. For instance, if I were to do something on writing, I would like to partner with Santhosh. This is not to say that based on work I would not like to be part of some other collective. But each collective has to give a budget and a brief summary of what they plan to do with their part of the claim. This process will make the retrospective act of editing easier.It will also ensure that Pi's contribution to the KIPAF is not just as an organizer but as an enabler of the possibilities that are spread out in the form of networks.
I hope, wherever we are, in an AC room in a high rise, or an AC equipped ATM, we shall get working. One way of flagging it off could be by asking in what positions we would like to contribute, and what would be the profile of the collective with which we would like to work. Once that is done each of us can work on the proposals. A broad theme can be generated from those proposals itself. It would be best if each of the collectives could generate some funding to support the accommodation and other expenses. That way whatever has been offered by Bangla Natok can be retained for the art.
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From: Santhosh Sakhinala <santusakhi@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:52 PM
To: Shrimoy roy chaudhury <sroychau@gmail.com>
Cc: Sanchayan Ghosh <sanchayang2@gmail.com>, Syed Riaz <syedtaufikriaz@gmail.com>, Amitava Adhikari <aliamitabha@gmail.com>, Ankur Das <ankurdas.1985@gmail.com>, AOPALA AOPALA <aopala94@gmail.com>, Anirban Datta <amnesian@gmail.com>, Tapati Chowdhury <dolajhamela@gmail.com>, Rahul Bhattacharya <evilareve@gmail.com>, Suman Majumder <hergecalling@gmail.com>, chirantan mukhopadhya <cmukpostbox90@gmail.com>, Uma Banerjee <khukiratri12@gmail.com>, sumantro mukherjee <sun_m25@rediffmail.com>, Suman Mondal <sumanchobi@gmail.com>, Trayajit Dutta <trayajit@gmail.com>, Ayanava Sanyal <nvsanyal@gmail.com>, Arne Gollasch <arnegollasch@gmx.net>, martijn de rooij <derooij.martijn@gmail.com>, taxiduomail@gmail.com, madhuja_m <madhuja_m@yahoo.co.in>, Goutam Ghosh <mrgoutamghosh@gmail.com>, Bhaskar Hazarika <hazarika.bhaskar@gmail.com>, rituparna banerjee <banerjee.rituparna06@gmail.com>, samudra kajal saikia <kankhowa@gmail.com>, sambaran das <sambaran.das@gmail.com>, Susmita Das <susmita1002@gmail.com>, Sukanta Majumdar <sukantamajumdar77@gmail.com>, Monica Nanjunda <monica.nanjunda@gmail.com>, Manas Acharya <sahajmanush@yahoo.com>, Sajad H Hamdani <artistscommune@gmail.com>, Sajan Mani <sajan@kochimuzirisbiennale.org>, Moushumi Bhowmik <moushumibhowmik@gmail.com>, "Bea D." <beavanakkam@gmail.com>, sukanto debnath <sukantodebnath@yahoo.com>, Kedar Vishwanathan <kedarvish@gmail.com>, Prakriti dutta mukherjee <prakriti.dm@gmail.com>, ROHAN DEWANJEA <rohandewanjea@gmail.com>
Happy to see shooting ideas!!
I agree with what Sanchayan da suggests, and the Shrimoy da's idea of generating funds for Pi and KIPAF.
Lets us say we do not have funds for KIPAF-16 and like every year we start collecting and generating funds with the processes and activities that we do. And lets see banglanatok is interested to contribute (and not fund the festival) some amount of money to that fund raising that we do, like 10 rupees someone contributes when we do street painting or like our friends sends a 500 or a 1000 or more. banglanatak is contributing an amount which is bigger but a gesture, we can choose to see, not different from a stranger's 10 rs or a friends 100rs. And we can go on with our fund raising activities that configured the energies and imaginations leading to the festival. We cannot, I think, abandon those activities if a 'generous' cultural institution (for whatever reasons) is willing to contribute a major amount of fund.
Now the question is how to frame/perceive it as "contribution" and not "funding". Because is proposed/appointed as the curator of the Artroom of which KIPAF-16 is going to assume a part. We need to think about how we can carve out its space, and what are the terms that banglanatak is basing itself in relation to KIPAF-16.
Warmth
Santhosh
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From: Santhosh Sakhinala <santusakhi@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:56 PM
To: Shrimoy roy chaudhury <sroychau@gmail.com>
Cc: Sanchayan Ghosh <sanchayang2@gmail.com>, Syed Riaz <syedtaufikriaz@gmail.com>, Amitava Adhikari <aliamitabha@gmail.com>, Ankur Das <ankurdas.1985@gmail.com>, AOPALA AOPALA <aopala94@gmail.com>, Anirban Datta <amnesian@gmail.com>, Tapati Chowdhury <dolajhamela@gmail.com>, Rahul Bhattacharya <evilareve@gmail.com>, Suman Majumder <hergecalling@gmail.com>, chirantan mukhopadhya <cmukpostbox90@gmail.com>, Uma Banerjee <khukiratri12@gmail.com>, sumantro mukherjee <sun_m25@rediffmail.com>, Suman Mondal <sumanchobi@gmail.com>, Trayajit Dutta <trayajit@gmail.com>, Ayanava Sanyal <nvsanyal@gmail.com>, Arne Gollasch <arnegollasch@gmx.net>, martijn de rooij <derooij.martijn@gmail.com>, taxiduomail@gmail.com, madhuja_m <madhuja_m@yahoo.co.in>, Goutam Ghosh <mrgoutamghosh@gmail.com>, Bhaskar Hazarika <hazarika.bhaskar@gmail.com>, rituparna banerjee <banerjee.rituparna06@gmail.com>, samudra kajal saikia <kankhowa@gmail.com>, sambaran das <sambaran.das@gmail.com>, Susmita Das <susmita1002@gmail.com>, Sukanta Majumdar <sukantamajumdar77@gmail.com>, Monica Nanjunda <monica.nanjunda@gmail.com>, Manas Acharya <sahajmanush@yahoo.com>, Sajad H Hamdani <artistscommune@gmail.com>, Sajan Mani <sajan@kochimuzirisbiennale.org>, Moushumi Bhowmik <moushumibhowmik@gmail.com>, "Bea D." <beavanakkam@gmail.com>, sukanto debnath <sukantodebnath@yahoo.com>, Kedar Vishwanathan <kedarvish@gmail.com>, Prakriti dutta mukherjee <prakriti.dm@gmail.com>, ROHAN DEWANJEA <rohandewanjea@gmail.com>
Because Taufik is proposed/appointed as the curator of the Artroom of which KIPAF-16 is going to assume a part.
(Taufik was missing in the last response ;)
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From: Amitava Adhikari <aliamitabha@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:10 PM
To: santhosh sakhinala <santusakhi@gmail.com>
Cc: Kedar Vishwanathan <kedarvish@gmail.com>, Moushumi Bhowmik <moushumibhowmik@gmail.com>, rituparna banerjee <banerjee.rituparna06@gmail.com>, sukanto debnath <sukantodebnath@yahoo.com>, Manas Acharya <sahajmanush@yahoo.com>, Tapati Chowdhury <dolajhamela@gmail.com>, Ayanava Sanyal <nvsanyal@gmail.com>, Trayajit Dutta <trayajit@gmail.com>, madhuja_m <madhuja_m@yahoo.co.in>, "Bea D." <beavanakkam@gmail.com>, Goutam Ghosh <mrgoutamghosh@gmail.com>, Sukanta Majumdar <sukantamajumdar77@gmail.com>, Syed Riaz <syedtaufikriaz@gmail.com>, Shrimoy roy chaudhury <sroychau@gmail.com>, Prakriti dutta mukherjee <prakriti.dm@gmail.com>, Sajan Mani <sajan@kochimuzirisbiennale.org>, sambaran das <sambaran.das@gmail.com>, martijn de rooij <derooij.martijn@gmail.com>, AOPALA AOPALA <aopala94@gmail.com>, Susmita Das <susmita1002@gmail.com>, ROHAN DEWANJEA <rohandewanjea@gmail.com>, Ankur Das <ankurdas.1985@gmail.com>, sumantro mukherjee <sun_m25@rediffmail.com>, Rahul Bhattacharya <evilareve@gmail.com>, samudra kajal saikia <kankhowa@gmail.com>, Suman Mondal <sumanchobi@gmail.com>, Arne Gollasch <arnegollasch@gmx.net>, Anirban Datta <amnesian@gmail.com>, Sanchayan Ghosh <sanchayang2@gmail.com>, Bhaskar Hazarika <hazarika.bhaskar@gmail.com>, Sajad H Hamdani <artistscommune@gmail.com>, chirantan mukhopadhya <cmukpostbox90@gmail.com>, Monica Nanjunda <monica.nanjunda@gmail.com>, Suman Majumder <hergecalling@gmail.com>, taxiduomail@gmail.com, Uma Banerjee <khukiratri12@gmail.com>
Pi to Pi,
Thanks to Sanchayanda for your valuable insights....
And Shrimoy for the ideological clarity....
And Santhosh for the broader perspective....
And Manas for your details about the banglanatak's position and clarification about your dual or multiple positions..
Now the discussion seems quite healthy ....
I feel something great is going to come out all the upcoming cooperation s....
But I feel an absence of the younger minds in the ongoing discussions...
Please young minds feel free to put your valuable opinions...
And that is very much necessary...
Love and solidarity..
Amitava
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From: Beatrice Didier <beavanakkam@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 3:58 AM
To: Amitava Adhikari <aliamitabha@gmail.com>
Cc: santhosh sakhinala <santusakhi@gmail.com>, Kedar Vishwanathan <kedarvish@gmail.com>, Moushumi Bhowmik <moushumibhowmik@gmail.com>, rituparna banerjee <banerjee.rituparna06@gmail.com>, sukanto debnath <sukantodebnath@yahoo.com>, Manas Acharya <sahajmanush@yahoo.com>, Tapati Chowdhury <dolajhamela@gmail.com>, Ayanava Sanyal <nvsanyal@gmail.com>, Trayajit Dutta <trayajit@gmail.com>, madhuja_m <madhuja_m@yahoo.co.in>, Goutam Ghosh <mrgoutamghosh@gmail.com>, Sukanta Majumdar <sukantamajumdar77@gmail.com>, Syed Riaz <syedtaufikriaz@gmail.com>, Shrimoy roy chaudhury <sroychau@gmail.com>, Prakriti dutta mukherjee <prakriti.dm@gmail.com>, Sajan Mani <sajan@kochimuzirisbiennale.org>, sambaran das <sambaran.das@gmail.com>, martijn de rooij <derooij.martijn@gmail.com>, AOPALA AOPALA <aopala94@gmail.com>, Susmita Das <susmita1002@gmail.com>, ROHAN DEWANJEA <rohandewanjea@gmail.com>, Ankur Das <ankurdas.1985@gmail.com>, sumantro mukherjee <sun_m25@rediffmail.com>, Rahul Bhattacharya <evilareve@gmail.com>, samudra kajal saikia <kankhowa@gmail.com>, Suman Mondal <sumanchobi@gmail.com>, Arne Gollasch <arnegollasch@gmx.net>, Anirban Datta <amnesian@gmail.com>, Sanchayan Ghosh <sanchayang2@gmail.com>, Bhaskar Hazarika <hazarika.bhaskar@gmail.com>, Sajad H Hamdani <artistscommune@gmail.com>, chirantan mukhopadhya <cmukpostbox90@gmail.com>, Monica Nanjunda <monica.nanjunda@gmail.com>, Suman Majumder <hergecalling@gmail.com>, taxiduomail@gmail.com, Uma Banerjee <khukiratri12@gmail.com>
Dear all of you,
sorry i'm not able to follow all discussions and be part of it.
To be honest actually i have to manage al
ready so many things about organizating, collaborating, curating, finding finances for all of that that i have no energy for something more.
Also it's difficult for me from so far to follow properly and i don't want to interfer also in some country where i like to come, to be, to do encounterings etc... but where i don't stay enough time to be part of all of these discussions. I need to be physically in a space to be able to react properly.
Also at moment i have to take care more about my body. So all of that means that i can't be part of all discussions.
I hope you'll understand.
I really wish all of you will go together to continue research, exchanges, collaborations, encounterings,...
It's really nice to see that Performance Art can bring some artists together in India. I'm so happy to see that even if i'm not there with you.
With warm thoughts, love and best wishes
bea
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From: chirantan mukhopadhya <cmuk.postbox90@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 3:40 PM
To: Beatrice Didier <beavanakkam@gmail.com>
Cc: Amitava Adhikari <aliamitabha@gmail.com>, santhosh sakhinala <santusakhi@gmail.com>, Kedar Vishwanathan <kedarvish@gmail.com>, Moushumi Bhowmik <moushumibhowmik@gmail.com>, rituparna banerjee <banerjee.rituparna06@gmail.com>, sukanto debnath <sukantodebnath@yahoo.com>, Manas Acharya <sahajmanush@yahoo.com>, Tapati Chowdhury <dolajhamela@gmail.com>, Ayanava Sanyal <nvsanyal@gmail.com>, Trayajit Dutta <trayajit@gmail.com>, madhuja_m <madhuja_m@yahoo.co.in>, Goutam Ghosh <mrgoutamghosh@gmail.com>, Sukanta Majumdar <sukantamajumdar77@gmail.com>, Syed Riaz <syedtaufikriaz@gmail.com>, Shrimoy roy chaudhury <sroychau@gmail.com>, Prakriti dutta mukherjee <prakriti.dm@gmail.com>, Sajan Mani <sajan@kochimuzirisbiennale.org>, sambaran das <sambaran.das@gmail.com>, martijn de rooij <derooij.martijn@gmail.com>, AOPALA AOPALA <aopala94@gmail.com>, Susmita Das <susmita1002@gmail.com>, ROHAN DEWANJEA <rohandewanjea@gmail.com>, Ankur Das <ankurdas.1985@gmail.com>, sumantro mukherjee <sun_m25@rediffmail.com>, Rahul Bhattacharya <evilareve@gmail.com>, samudra kajal saikia <kankhowa@gmail.com>, Suman Mondal <sumanchobi@gmail.com>, Arne Gollasch <arnegollasch@gmx.net>, Anirban Datta <amnesian@gmail.com>, Sanchayan Ghosh <sanchayang2@gmail.com>, Bhaskar Hazarika <hazarika.bhaskar@gmail.com>, Sajad H Hamdani <artistscommune@gmail.com>, chirantan mukhopadhya <cmukpostbox90@gmail.com>, Monica Nanjunda <monica.nanjunda@gmail.com>, Suman Majumder <hergecalling@gmail.com>, taxiduomail@gmail.com, Uma Banerjee <khukiratri12@gmail.com>
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From: Uma Banerjee <khukiratri12@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 5:49 PM
To: chirantan mukhopadhya <cmuk.postbox90@gmail.com>
Cc: Beatrice Didier <beavanakkam@gmail.com>, Amitava Adhikari <aliamitabha@gmail.com>, santhosh sakhinala <santusakhi@gmail.com>, Kedar Vishwanathan <kedarvish@gmail.com>, Moushumi Bhowmik <moushumibhowmik@gmail.com>, rituparna banerjee <banerjee.rituparna06@gmail.com>, sukanto debnath <sukantodebnath@yahoo.com>, Manas Acharya <sahajmanush@yahoo.com>, Tapati Chowdhury <dolajhamela@gmail.com>, Ayanava Sanyal <nvsanyal@gmail.com>, Trayajit Dutta <trayajit@gmail.com>, madhuja_m <madhuja_m@yahoo.co.in>, Goutam Ghosh <mrgoutamghosh@gmail.com>, Sukanta Majumdar <sukantamajumdar77@gmail.com>, Syed Riaz <syedtaufikriaz@gmail.com>, Shrimoy roy chaudhury <sroychau@gmail.com>, Prakriti dutta mukherjee <prakriti.dm@gmail.com>, Sajan Mani <sajan@kochimuzirisbiennale.org>, sambaran das <sambaran.das@gmail.com>, martijn de rooij <derooij.martijn@gmail.com>, AOPALA AOPALA <aopala94@gmail.com>, Susmita Das <susmita1002@gmail.com>, ROHAN DEWANJEA <rohandewanjea@gmail.com>, Ankur Das <ankurdas.1985@gmail.com>, sumantro mukherjee <sun_m25@rediffmail.com>, Rahul Bhattacharya <evilareve@gmail.com>, samudra kajal saikia <kankhowa@gmail.com>, Suman Mondal <sumanchobi@gmail.com>, Arne Gollasch <arnegollasch@gmx.net>, Anirban Datta <amnesian@gmail.com>, Sanchayan Ghosh <sanchayang2@gmail.com>, Bhaskar Hazarika <hazarika.bhaskar@gmail.com>, Sajad H Hamdani <artistscommune@gmail.com>, chirantan mukhopadhya <cmukpostbox90@gmail.com>, Monica Nanjunda <monica.nanjunda@gmail.com>, Suman Majumder <hergecalling@gmail.com>, taxiduomail@gmail.com
amar sokol pi bandhura,2015 er kipaf er funding korte giye amar oviggotar kotha bolte chai. jekhane,keu keu emon bolechilo j se somay street art mood e patta dite parini..akjon bollo ami j taka dite chai ta akhan nei,ki vabe jogajog kora jaye?r akjon,please amra apnake taka debo tobe ai vabe rastay kaj dekhe na ashun office e ashun.. r akjoner dabi,apnara toh kipaf er jonno taka tulte chaichen ta kipaf er somay debo taka... se muhurto gulote ami uthsaho niye beshi kotha egote parini karon amar lokkho chilo kipaf ashche ta janano,kipaf ki ta bola,taka tola..sottie ami eder gurotto dite parini.
akhan mone hoye tader kach thekeo hoyeto taka payoa jeto ba akhano payoa jabe.. tara kara???
Ami jani na, tobe proshno hoche protek bochor je budget banano hoyeche funding er jnno sei sob funder r art room er modher farak ta ki?Jodio fund konodin o amra paini r ebochor art room nije fund niye eseche.
From the first year for funding we prepared various events like coupon making, children's art exhibition,street painting so for this year what is our plan?? please think fast.I can do street painting from now but in kolkata no Pi members present who are "free"
Kintu arekta dike lokho rakha uchit amar mne hoy, ekhon o porjonto sesher 3 yrs KIPAF e ektao Pi performance nei..seta amar mne hoi lack of workshop and apran chesta kre jaowa for funding..Ami performance korte chai
Sobai eksathe bosa dorkar....
Sokol er apekhai achi..
Regards,
Uma
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From: Suman Majumder <hergecalling@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 12:51 PM
To: Uma Banerjee <khukiratri12@gmail.com>
Cc: chirantan mukhopadhya <cmuk.postbox90@gmail.com>, Beatrice Didier <beavanakkam@gmail.com>, Amitava Adhikari <aliamitabha@gmail.com>, santhosh sakhinala <santusakhi@gmail.com>, Kedar Vishwanathan <kedarvish@gmail.com>, Moushumi Bhowmik <moushumibhowmik@gmail.com>, rituparna banerjee <banerjee.rituparna06@gmail.com>, sukanto debnath <sukantodebnath@yahoo.com>, Manas Acharya <sahajmanush@yahoo.com>, Tapati Chowdhury <dolajhamela@gmail.com>, Ayanava Sanyal <nvsanyal@gmail.com>, Trayajit Dutta <trayajit@gmail.com>, madhuja_m <madhuja_m@yahoo.co.in>, Goutam Ghosh <mrgoutamghosh@gmail.com>, Sukanta Majumdar <sukantamajumdar77@gmail.com>, Syed Riaz <syedtaufikriaz@gmail.com>, Shrimoy roy chaudhury <sroychau@gmail.com>, Prakriti dutta mukherjee <prakriti.dm@gmail.com>, Sajan Mani <sajan@kochimuzirisbiennale.org>, sambaran das <sambaran.das@gmail.com>, martijn de rooij <derooij.martijn@gmail.com>, AOPALA AOPALA <aopala94@gmail.com>, Susmita Das <susmita1002@gmail.com>, ROHAN DEWANJEA <rohandewanjea@gmail.com>, Ankur Das <ankurdas.1985@gmail.com>, sumantro mukherjee <sun_m25@rediffmail.com>, Rahul Bhattacharya <evilareve@gmail.com>, samudra kajal saikia <kankhowa@gmail.com>, Suman Mondal <sumanchobi@gmail.com>, Arne Gollasch <arnegollasch@gmx.net>, Anirban Datta <amnesian@gmail.com>, Sanchayan Ghosh <sanchayang2@gmail.com>, Bhaskar Hazarika <hazarika.bhaskar@gmail.com>, Sajad H Hamdani <artistscommune@gmail.com>, chirantan mukhopadhya <cmukpostbox90@gmail.com>, Monica Nanjunda <monica.nanjunda@gmail.com>, taxiduomail@gmail.com
i hope every old frustrated souls gets their money and respect through their practice, failure and age makes human mad and desperate in anything , we know it..money and its distribution comes with a power trip among the"group"...
so all the best to all, i am nobody to comment on what PI should do, as i am not a "registered member" of Pi. i was not informed about the meeting among Pi members and Bangla Natok on last thursday. as i know there were Taufik, uma, apola and Bukan... because they are really important members of PI..
but i must say i am getting entertained by this debate related to money... yes "money" it is..
it showed me how a senior jobless film maker tries to bargain for the footage of PI documentation for money,
it showed me how people gets insecure when Taufik and manas finds the source of funding from some agencies in kolkata...
it shows a complete mistrust inside a group for "money"
all the best to my fellow and "senior" artists.. fight on..fight for money...
and on loast note: yes businessmen also says it for better deal "aajao yaar baithke baatei karen" but the fight before negotiation is more interesting
LOL!!!!! thanks it was really colorful experience to be with you all for last two years.. :)
mojo
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From: Shrimoy roy chaudhury <sroychau@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 3:01 PM
To: Suman Majumder <hergecalling@gmail.com>
Cc: Uma Banerjee <khukiratri12@gmail.com>, chirantan mukhopadhya <cmuk.postbox90@gmail.com>, Beatrice Didier <beavanakkam@gmail.com>, Amitava Adhikari <aliamitabha@gmail.com>, santhosh sakhinala <santusakhi@gmail.com>, Kedar Vishwanathan <kedarvish@gmail.com>, Moushumi Bhowmik <moushumibhowmik@gmail.com>, rituparna banerjee <banerjee.rituparna06@gmail.com>, sukanto debnath <sukantodebnath@yahoo.com>, Manas Acharya <sahajmanush@yahoo.com>, Tapati Chowdhury <dolajhamela@gmail.com>, Ayanava Sanyal <nvsanyal@gmail.com>, Trayajit Dutta <trayajit@gmail.com>, madhuja_m <madhuja_m@yahoo.co.in>, Goutam Ghosh <mrgoutamghosh@gmail.com>, Sukanta Majumdar <sukantamajumdar77@gmail.com>, Syed Riaz <syedtaufikriaz@gmail.com>, Prakriti dutta mukherjee <prakriti.dm@gmail.com>, Sajan Mani <sajan@kochimuzirisbiennale.org>, sambaran das <sambaran.das@gmail.com>, martijn de rooij <derooij.martijn@gmail.com>, AOPALA AOPALA <aopala94@gmail.com>, Susmita Das <susmita1002@gmail.com>, ROHAN DEWANJEA <rohandewanjea@gmail.com>, Ankur Das <ankurdas.1985@gmail.com>, sumantro mukherjee <sun_m25@rediffmail.com>, Rahul Bhattacharya <evilareve@gmail.com>, samudra kajal saikia <kankhowa@gmail.com>, Suman Mondal <sumanchobi@gmail.com>, Arne Gollasch <arnegollasch@gmx.net>, Anirban Datta <amnesian@gmail.com>, Sanchayan Ghosh <sanchayang2@gmail.com>, Bhaskar Hazarika <hazarika.bhaskar@gmail.com>, Sajad H Hamdani <artistscommune@gmail.com>, chirantan mukhopadhya <cmukpostbox90@gmail.com>, Monica Nanjunda <monica.nanjunda@gmail.com>, taxiduomail@gmail.com
Thank you Uma for the email--it shows the sensitiveness that you are known for.
Notwithstanding Mozo's poor sense of sarcasm and his vitriolic outburst against a fellow film maker (this has become a regular feature-it does not depend on the occasion. I think he should try writing a serious script out of his angst instead of making every public platform an occasion for being vocal), it does betray some of our members' inability to see the issue beyond the question of money. The issue of funding has triggered off a debate on the procedural functioning of Pi in relation to KIPAF. After all this issue is but a procedural one. I have been insisting on coming up with a functional format for members of Pi to participate--every one cannot work with the other; we need to create, for functional reasons, imagined working communities by leaving each of us to create one. For those who are getting restless, let me tell you that it is better to be self questioning than accept the status and life of an organization as given.
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From: Bhaskar Hazarika <hazarika.bhaskar@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:18 AM
To: Shrimoy roy chaudhury <sroychau@gmail.com>
Cc: Suman Majumder <hergecalling@gmail.com>, Uma Banerjee <khukiratri12@gmail.com>, chirantan mukhopadhya <cmuk.postbox90@gmail.com>, Beatrice Didier <beavanakkam@gmail.com>, Amitava Adhikari <aliamitabha@gmail.com>, santhosh sakhinala <santusakhi@gmail.com>, Kedar Vishwanathan <kedarvish@gmail.com>, Moushumi Bhowmik <moushumibhowmik@gmail.com>, rituparna banerjee <banerjee.rituparna06@gmail.com>, sukanto debnath <sukantodebnath@yahoo.com>, Manas Acharya <sahajmanush@yahoo.com>, Tapati Chowdhury <dolajhamela@gmail.com>, Ayanava Sanyal <nvsanyal@gmail.com>, Trayajit Dutta <trayajit@gmail.com>, madhuja_m <madhuja_m@yahoo.co.in>, Goutam Ghosh <mrgoutamghosh@gmail.com>, Sukanta Majumdar <sukantamajumdar77@gmail.com>, Syed Riaz <syedtaufikriaz@gmail.com>, Prakriti dutta mukherjee <prakriti.dm@gmail.com>, Sajan Mani <sajan@kochimuzirisbiennale.org>, sambaran das <sambaran.das@gmail.com>, martijn de rooij <derooij.martijn@gmail.com>, AOPALA AOPALA <aopala94@gmail.com>, Susmita Das <susmita1002@gmail.com>, ROHAN DEWANJEA <rohandewanjea@gmail.com>, Ankur Das <ankurdas.1985@gmail.com>, sumantro mukherjee <sun_m25@rediffmail.com>, Rahul Bhattacharya <evilareve@gmail.com>, samudra kajal saikia <kankhowa@gmail.com>, Suman Mondal <sumanchobi@gmail.com>, Arne Gollasch <arnegollasch@gmx.net>, Anirban Datta <amnesian@gmail.com>, Sanchayan Ghosh <sanchayang2@gmail.com>, Sajad H Hamdani <artistscommune@gmail.com>, chirantan mukhopadhya <cmukpostbox90@gmail.com>, Monica Nanjunda <monica.nanjunda@gmail.com>, taxiduomail@gmail.com
dear friends,
what was the topic of argument initially? please, be there... otherwise the debate remains no more a debate... and I am (among the 'we') participating in this debate just for the sake of the particular situational condition of Pi and Kipaf at this moment,.. sorry to say, can we expect little more particular things to discuss?... otherwise, please...
regards,
Bhaskar
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From: Aopala <aopala94@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:20 AM
To: Shrimoy roy chaudhury <sroychau@gmail.com>
Cc: Suman Majumder <hergecalling@gmail.com>, Uma Banerjee <khukiratri12@gmail.com>, chirantan mukhopadhya <cmuk.postbox90@gmail.com>, Beatrice Didier <beavanakkam@gmail.com>, Amitava Adhikari <aliamitabha@gmail.com>, santhosh sakhinala <santusakhi@gmail.com>, Kedar Vishwanathan <kedarvish@gmail.com>, Moushumi Bhowmik <moushumibhowmik@gmail.com>, rituparna banerjee <banerjee.rituparna06@gmail.com>, sukanto debnath <sukantodebnath@yahoo.com>, Manas Acharya <sahajmanush@yahoo.com>, Tapati Chowdhury <dolajhamela@gmail.com>, Ayanava Sanyal <nvsanyal@gmail.com>, Trayajit Dutta <trayajit@gmail.com>, madhuja_m <madhuja_m@yahoo.co.in>, Goutam Ghosh <mrgoutamghosh@gmail.com>, Sukanta Majumdar <sukantamajumdar77@gmail.com>, Syed Riaz <syedtaufikriaz@gmail.com>, Prakriti dutta mukherjee <prakriti.dm@gmail.com>, Sajan Mani <sajan@kochimuzirisbiennale.org>, sambaran das <sambaran.das@gmail.com>, martijn de rooij <derooij.martijn@gmail.com>, Susmita Das <susmita1002@gmail.com>, ROHAN DEWANJEA <rohandewanjea@gmail.com>, Ankur Das <ankurdas.1985@gmail.com>, sumantro mukherjee <sun_m25@rediffmail.com>, Rahul Bhattacharya <evilareve@gmail.com>, samudra kajal saikia <kankhowa@gmail.com>, Suman Mondal <sumanchobi@gmail.com>, Arne Gollasch <arnegollasch@gmx.net>, Anirban Datta <amnesian@gmail.com>, Sanchayan Ghosh <sanchayang2@gmail.com>, Bhaskar Hazarika <hazarika.bhaskar@gmail.com>, Sajad H Hamdani <artistscommune@gmail.com>, Monica Nanjunda <monica.nanjunda@gmail.com>, "taxiduomail@gmail.com" <taxiduomail@gmail.com>
Hello everyone.
Last Thursday few of us on behalf of Performers Independent had been present at the meeting where the initiative taken by Art Room was put forward.Apart from us,there were many other art collectives mostly from kolkata,who were also present.The initiative taken by art room primarily looks forward for a regular space and generous atmosphere for Alternative Art Practices,where Artists find a way to know and work with each other.
It is here to be said that the Art Room looks forward to support individual artists as well as art collectives,through the fund that they receive from Bangla Natok .Com. and for sure looking forward to other mutual spaces where artists can work.So my dear Pi mates,as it has been before said that Art Room will help contribute to Kipaf,and to all other creepy creatures who are somewhere peeping out with shining eyes only to know each other and hence make a bigger...bigger space to work.And never to forget
"Ring- a ring -a roses,
A pocket full of posies
Ashes! ashes!
We all fall down"
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From: Shrimoy roy chaudhury <sroychau@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:12 PM
To: Bhaskar Hazarika <hazarika.bhaskar@gmail.com>
Cc: Suman Majumder <hergecalling@gmail.com>, Uma Banerjee <khukiratri12@gmail.com>, chirantan mukhopadhya <cmuk.postbox90@gmail.com>, Beatrice Didier <beavanakkam@gmail.com>, Amitava Adhikari <aliamitabha@gmail.com>, santhosh sakhinala <santusakhi@gmail.com>, Kedar Vishwanathan <kedarvish@gmail.com>, Moushumi Bhowmik <moushumibhowmik@gmail.com>, rituparna banerjee <banerjee.rituparna06@gmail.com>, sukanto debnath <sukantodebnath@yahoo.com>, Manas Acharya <sahajmanush@yahoo.com>, Tapati Chowdhury <dolajhamela@gmail.com>, Ayanava Sanyal <nvsanyal@gmail.com>, Trayajit Dutta <trayajit@gmail.com>, madhuja_m <madhuja_m@yahoo.co.in>, Goutam Ghosh <mrgoutamghosh@gmail.com>, Sukanta Majumdar <sukantamajumdar77@gmail.com>, Syed Riaz <syedtaufikriaz@gmail.com>, Prakriti dutta mukherjee <prakriti.dm@gmail.com>, Sajan Mani <sajan@kochimuzirisbiennale.org>, sambaran das <sambaran.das@gmail.com>, martijn de rooij <derooij.martijn@gmail.com>, AOPALA AOPALA <aopala94@gmail.com>, Susmita Das <susmita1002@gmail.com>, ROHAN DEWANJEA <rohandewanjea@gmail.com>, Ankur Das <ankurdas.1985@gmail.com>, sumantro mukherjee <sun_m25@rediffmail.com>, Rahul Bhattacharya <evilareve@gmail.com>, samudra kajal saikia <kankhowa@gmail.com>, Suman Mondal <sumanchobi@gmail.com>, Arne Gollasch <arnegollasch@gmx.net>, Anirban Datta <amnesian@gmail.com>, Sanchayan Ghosh <sanchayang2@gmail.com>, Sajad H Hamdani <artistscommune@gmail.com>, chirantan mukhopadhya <cmukpostbox90@gmail.com>, Monica Nanjunda <monica.nanjunda@gmail.com>, taxiduomail@gmail.com
Thanks Bhaskar.
My query:
Given the fact that Kipaf organized by Pi is contemplating on entering a new sphere of sociality supported by ArtRoom/Banglanatok funding, how do we see the respective roles of those who constitute Pi (registered or otherwise)? Will there be an option to create working collectives from amongst ourselves, or should we be depending on a "top down" order to organize ourselves both in relation to the work, the materials, the funding, and the final cuts?
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From: Santhosh Sakhinala <santusakhi@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 2:25 PM
To: Shrimoy roy chaudhury <sroychau@gmail.com>
Cc: Bhaskar Hazarika <hazarika.bhaskar@gmail.com>, Suman Majumder <hergecalling@gmail.com>, Uma Banerjee <khukiratri12@gmail.com>, chirantan mukhopadhya <cmuk.postbox90@gmail.com>, Beatrice Didier <beavanakkam@gmail.com>, Amitava Adhikari <aliamitabha@gmail.com>, Kedar Vishwanathan <kedarvish@gmail.com>, Moushumi Bhowmik <moushumibhowmik@gmail.com>, rituparna banerjee <banerjee.rituparna06@gmail.com>, sukanto debnath <sukantodebnath@yahoo.com>, Manas Acharya <sahajmanush@yahoo.com>, Tapati Chowdhury <dolajhamela@gmail.com>, Ayanava Sanyal <nvsanyal@gmail.com>, Trayajit Dutta <trayajit@gmail.com>, madhuja_m <madhuja_m@yahoo.co.in>, Goutam Ghosh <mrgoutamghosh@gmail.com>, Sukanta Majumdar <sukantamajumdar77@gmail.com>, Syed Riaz <syedtaufikriaz@gmail.com>, Prakriti dutta mukherjee <prakriti.dm@gmail.com>, Sajan Mani <sajan@kochimuzirisbiennale.org>, sambaran das <sambaran.das@gmail.com>, martijn de rooij <derooij.martijn@gmail.com>, AOPALA AOPALA <aopala94@gmail.com>, Susmita Das <susmita1002@gmail.com>, ROHAN DEWANJEA <rohandewanjea@gmail.com>, Ankur Das <ankurdas.1985@gmail.com>, sumantro mukherjee <sun_m25@rediffmail.com>, Rahul Bhattacharya <evilareve@gmail.com>, samudra kajal saikia <kankhowa@gmail.com>, Suman Mondal <sumanchobi@gmail.com>, Arne Gollasch <arnegollasch@gmx.net>, Anirban Datta <amnesian@gmail.com>, Sanchayan Ghosh <sanchayang2@gmail.com>, Sajad H Hamdani <artistscommune@gmail.com>, chirantan mukhopadhya <cmukpostbox90@gmail.com>, Monica Nanjunda <monica.nanjunda@gmail.com>, taxiduomail@gmail.com
Well,
As there is the first 'public meeting' scheduled centering KIPAF-16 as the focus of discussion, I would like to reiterate few points that we have been engaged in.
None of the members associated with pi disagrees (at least that is what reflects in these conversations) about collaborating with
banglanatok.com. But there are questions raised, positively, about the nature of that collaboration considering the way in which KIPAF has come to configure. The way funds had been put together through the gestures of collective participation which, reflected and simultaneously composed our ideological framework(s) of work, alternative-ness and also relations (new and old) that we have nurtured and spoiled. We claimed, with a sense of pride and romanticism, that our collective ways of doing "alternative" art practice is based on certain everydayness of experiencing living and further opening/intervening into spaces that would question the institutionalization of culture, art, and politics. This claim occupied an important space in the curatorial notes that we have formulated for past KIPAFs. This also provided the strength to our voice to say that we cannot provide travel and other expenses and also gave meaning to the 'discomfort' that all the participant collectives went through during KIPAFs.
So, now, in this new situation of
banglanatok.com extending its fund, how is it going to effect, alter and reconfigure our position? We need to discuss this.
Like any funding organisation,
banglanatok.com is equally patronizing with its expectations. A patron not only gives money but would want us to work in a way that suits their purpose. The expectations in this case may be different and not evident. I don't know. Banglanatok.com might be generous enough to not expect anything from this collaboration. But I have a fundamental problem with the term "
alternative". banglanatok.com in a way is creating a space that would informally institutionalise the "alternative art practices" that are disparately spread out in the city Kolkata. As I see at least in india now, there are different kinds of work/art that people do as Alternative Art Practice. It is good actually. There is not one way of doing alternative art but it also creates a paradoxical situation where anything that is not conventional an expression (like painting, sculpture, print, now installation) automatically becomes alternative. Performance Art suffers from this misunderstanding. So, what is this space (Art Room) where all the artists and collectives that do alternative practices? What does this effort to institutionalise alternative mean? And "alternative" has already been under institutionalisation efforts from quite sometime for various reasons. In this situation how do we understand our practice and relate to the larger institutional processes? To come to the basic question that how do we understand "alternative" in relation to our practice before collaborating with any space/institution that helps alternative art practices. What is our discourse of practice that we can see and articulate to ourselves in the work that we have done till now.
Again, I am not saying that we should not collaborate with
banglanatok.com. In fact we should collaborate and take the challenges it would pose.
Another thing is curatorial note. What are points and positions that would base our curatorial note this time? How are we going to articulate our collaboration with
banglanatok.com in it?
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From: Suman Majumder <hergecalling@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 6:46 PM
To: Santhosh Sakhinala <santusakhi@gmail.com>
Cc: Shrimoy roy chaudhury <sroychau@gmail.com>, Bhaskar Hazarika <hazarika.bhaskar@gmail.com>, Uma Banerjee <khukiratri12@gmail.com>, chirantan mukhopadhya <cmuk.postbox90@gmail.com>, Beatrice Didier <beavanakkam@gmail.com>, Amitava Adhikari <aliamitabha@gmail.com>, Kedar Vishwanathan <kedarvish@gmail.com>, Moushumi Bhowmik <moushumibhowmik@gmail.com>, rituparna banerjee <banerjee.rituparna06@gmail.com>, sukanto debnath <sukantodebnath@yahoo.com>, Manas Acharya <sahajmanush@yahoo.com>, Tapati Chowdhury <dolajhamela@gmail.com>, Ayanava Sanyal <nvsanyal@gmail.com>, Trayajit Dutta <trayajit@gmail.com>, madhuja_m <madhuja_m@yahoo.co.in>, Goutam Ghosh <mrgoutamghosh@gmail.com>, Sukanta Majumdar <sukantamajumdar77@gmail.com>, Syed Riaz <syedtaufikriaz@gmail.com>, Prakriti dutta mukherjee <prakriti.dm@gmail.com>, Sajan Mani <sajan@kochimuzirisbiennale.org>, sambaran das <sambaran.das@gmail.com>, martijn de rooij <derooij.martijn@gmail.com>, AOPALA AOPALA <aopala94@gmail.com>, Susmita Das <susmita1002@gmail.com>, ROHAN DEWANJEA <rohandewanjea@gmail.com>, Ankur Das <ankurdas.1985@gmail.com>, sumantro mukherjee <sun_m25@rediffmail.com>, Rahul Bhattacharya <evilareve@gmail.com>, samudra kajal saikia <kankhowa@gmail.com>, Suman Mondal <sumanchobi@gmail.com>, Arne Gollasch <arnegollasch@gmx.net>, Anirban Datta <amnesian@gmail.com>, Sanchayan Ghosh <sanchayang2@gmail.com>, Sajad H Hamdani <artistscommune@gmail.com>, chirantan mukhopadhya <cmukpostbox90@gmail.com>, Monica Nanjunda <monica.nanjunda@gmail.com>, taxiduomail@gmail.com
i am truly apologetic for my previous mail..i shouldn't have comment like that.
pardon
mojo
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From: Syed Riaz <syedtaufikriaz@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 4:32 PM
To: Amitava Adhikari <aliamitabha@gmail.com>, Ankur Das <ankurdas.1985@gmail.com>, AOPALA AOPALA <aopala94@gmail.com>, Anirban Datta <amnesian@gmail.com>, Tapati Chowdhury <dolajhamela@gmail.com>, Rahul Bhattacharya <evilareve@gmail.com>, Suman Majumder <hergecalling@gmail.com>, Uma Banerjee <khukiratri12@gmail.com>, Shrimoy roy chaudhury <sroychau@gmail.com>, sumantro mukherjee <sun_m25@rediffmail.com>, Suman Mondal <sumanchobi@gmail.com>, Trayajit Dutta <trayajit@gmail.com>, Ayanava Sanyal <nvsanyal@gmail.com>, Arne Gollasch <arnegollasch@gmx.net>, martijn de rooij <derooij.martijn@gmail.com>, taxiduomail@gmail.com, Santhosh Sakhinala <santusakhi@gmail.com>, madhuja_m <madhuja_m@yahoo.co.in>, Goutam Ghosh <mrgoutamghosh@gmail.com>, Bhaskar Hazarika <hazarika.bhaskar@gmail.com>, rituparna banerjee <banerjee.rituparna06@gmail.com>, samudra kajal saikia <kankhowa@gmail.com>, sambaran das <sambaran.das@gmail.com>, Susmita Das <susmita1002@gmail.com>, Sukanta Majumdar <sukantamajumdar77@gmail.com>, Sanchayan Ghosh <sanchayang2@gmail.com>, Monica Nanjunda <monica.nanjunda@gmail.com>, Manas Acharya <sahajmanush@yahoo.com>, Sajad H Hamdani <artistscommune@gmail.com>, Sajan Mani <sajan@kochimuzirisbiennale.org>, Prakriti dutta mukherjee <prakriti.dm@gmail.com>, ROHAN DEWANJEA <rohandewanjea@gmail.com>
we are ready to give the open call.check out the attached letter drafted by santosh,amitava and taufik.
Pi working on renewal and new committee.also discussing on KIPAF2016 and other issues.
22nd,23rd,24th we are working with FTII students in kolkata.
one important point to remind:please take care to discuss beforehand with people from the place before calling a meeting somewhere,(especially when the caller is not staying in that place).
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From: Rahul Bhattacharya <evilareve@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 6:44 PM
To: Syed Riaz <syedtaufikriaz@gmail.com>
Cc: Amitava Adhikari <aliamitabha@gmail.com>, Ankur Das <ankurdas.1985@gmail.com>, AOPALA AOPALA <aopala94@gmail.com>, Anirban Datta <amnesian@gmail.com>, Tapati Chowdhury <dolajhamela@gmail.com>, Suman Majumder <hergecalling@gmail.com>, Uma Banerjee <khukiratri12@gmail.com>, Shrimoy roy chaudhury <sroychau@gmail.com>, sumantro mukherjee <sun_m25@rediffmail.com>, Suman Mondal <sumanchobi@gmail.com>, Trayajit Dutta <trayajit@gmail.com>, Ayanava Sanyal <nvsanyal@gmail.com>, Arne Gollasch <arnegollasch@gmx.net>, martijn de rooij <derooij.martijn@gmail.com>, taxiduomail@gmail.com, Santhosh Sakhinala <santusakhi@gmail.com>, madhuja_m <madhuja_m@yahoo.co.in>, Goutam Ghosh <mrgoutamghosh@gmail.com>, Bhaskar Hazarika <hazarika.bhaskar@gmail.com>, rituparna banerjee <banerjee.rituparna06@gmail.com>, samudra kajal saikia <kankhowa@gmail.com>, sambaran das <sambaran.das@gmail.com>, Susmita Das <susmita1002@gmail.com>, Sukanta Majumdar <sukantamajumdar77@gmail.com>, Sanchayan Ghosh <sanchayang2@gmail.com>, Monica Nanjunda <monica.nanjunda@gmail.com>, Manas Acharya <sahajmanush@yahoo.com>, Sajad H Hamdani <artistscommune@gmail.com>, Sajan Mani <sajan@kochimuzirisbiennale.org>, Prakriti dutta mukherjee <prakriti.dm@gmail.com>, ROHAN DEWANJEA <rohandewanjea@gmail.com>
Dear Taufik,
To begin with i will like to say that there is no problem with bangle natak coming on board on kipaf and being one of our supporting agencies.
However for even the best plans to work 3 things are important
1.
Trust
2.
Proper communication
3.
Timing
You have come to a position where you have lost trust in the eyes of many people, speaking for myself few things come to mind.
· I had very clearly communicated to you (chi was witness) that there was a commitment made to zoonie about paying her travel tickets. Pi not having anymoney is not the point, ultimately i paid her , but you writing in a public forum that you were not informed is a backstabbing and a lie.
· You told me that Anrban was causing a lot of problems being involved with one of our women members who is also in a relationship with another member. Later what came to light was that you too are in a emotional relationship relationship with her and you were manipulating circumstances from that point too.
· For some reason you have not sent the money raised for the Nepal earh quake – without communicating with anyone what we are waiting for.
· Also in the structure you propose there is a sever conflict of interest. If you are entering kipaf as curator of art room then you have to forsake you Pi reperesentation. That is clear and the legal way to do.
When the last kipaf meeting had decided that the next kipaf will follow a workshop based mode, explore possibility of moving away from Kolkata and that no reponsibity will be assigened instead there will be an open call for organisational responsibility. How was it suddenly bypassed, there was no communication from you regarding the same and the very top down model we had decided gainst following was put up by you, a closed structure with preassigened roles. As someone taking a leadership position you should be a better communicator.
Also before last kipaf i had said manas is one person who is not a member of Pi but is close to our practice, we should get him as a part of the kipaf team, that time you had objected, also cited mana’s misbehaviour with some of our female friends and argued that he cannot be a part. Now apart of benifiting you by helping you to get a job, what has changed tafik in terms of manas. I am the first person who wants manas in the kipaf team, but after apola’s performance (which i later herad you tried to censor), we need to have a undersnading na?
About staying at chander haat too, lat year i was pushing for it, but you objected and cited many philosophical and logistic reasons...again i think we desrve to know what has changed.
In the matters of timing you seem to be in a hurry, what is the hurry please explain. When you know that we are going to meet (you always knew that kipaf meeting wikl happen in july-august you still rushed to finalise without consultaion.
The concept note just sent by mail is not acceptable, because that is not how we work. We first have to approve of your very bad scheduling of kipaf, or porpose sites of the festival and only then a concept note can be writte.
Dear all-
I just cannot undersand how 1.5 lac rupees is being treated a sfull and final and not as a point of initiation .this year (for kipaf 16) ifa will possibly give pro Helvetica and someothers will give us support which is much more than what banga natak can offer. - why will bangle natak occypy a zone of central importance i don’t know.
Moreover kipaf is a successful event and art room has just stared, is art room capable of guiding kipaf? What is the working difference between kiapf and art room/
Also in the proper way, bangle natak should write us a proposal a formal letter. Till now there is nothing from there side.
Dear amitabho,
Yes i promise you that i will use all my experience to work towards kipaf not loosing track track and Pi does not loosing focus.
Dear santosh , baba,
Concept note ta bhaloi, ektu nijeder modeyer concept clear kori, 19th meeting er pore feedback pathachi.
Best
Rahul
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Some contonuations-
I do not think studio 21 is the best venue option, do we have other options?
What is the Utopian budget for KIPAF. There is some possibility of KIPAF 16 being able to raise 12 lacs rupees . if we can , I propose we appoint Taufik the directors post and give him annual salary. Let him orgasise seminars workshops, invite local and global curators, artists. We can even get 15 lacs. Right now the situation is not about bangla natok bringing in 1.5 lacs, but about many agencies wanting to give us funding.
Just khola none kotha bolle anek kichu shombhob
ABRACADABRA (voluntary support)
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Subject: Re: KIPAF2016 first draft proposalFrom: Rahul Bhattacharya <evilareve@gmail.com>
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Some contonuations-
I do not think studio 21 is the best venue option, do we have other options?
What is the Utopian budget for KIPAF. There is some possibility of KIPAF 16
being able to raise 12 lacs rupees . if we can , I propose we appoint
Taufik the directors post and give him annual salary. Let him orgasise
seminars workshops, invite local and global curators, artists. We can even
get 15 lacs. Right now the situation is not about bangla natok bringing in
1.5 lacs, but about many agencies wanting to give us funding.
Just khola none kotha bolle anek kichu shombhob
-----------------------------
rahul bhattacharya
Curator-
Writer
- Educator
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a change is just around the corner<http://theblackyellowarrow.blogspot.in/>
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*Pi *presents
*KIPAF2016 *
*associates: *ART ROOM ( fund,office space and other logistical support)
CHNADER HAAT (residency and indoor venue)
STUDIO 21 (indoor venue for presentations)
ABRACADABRA (voluntary support)*curatorial note team:* sreemoy,rahul,tapati,santosh,amitava,martin
*assistant in charge*: aopala
*blog maintain & online communication with artists: *taufik,rahul,manas
*assistant in charge*: aopala,mozo
*camera:* still photos: taxi,manas,rahul,rohon,mozo,augustine
*assistant in charge*
: susmita,rituparna,anirban(sarkar)
video: anirban(tubai),ankur,troyo,samudra,taufik
*assistant in charge*: uma
*publicity design:* sumantra(sunny),taufik,manas
*assistant in charge*
: chimuk,anirban(sarkar),sreya*technical team(sorry for this rather vague term,i hope u get what i mean):*
